Monday, August 14, 2017

Yep, so peaceful and law abiding....

So a bunch of folks from the Charlottesville rally couldn't just go home. Antifa, anti Fascist, anti Nazi....


That peaceful and law abiding group took to the streets of Durham and pulled a monument to Confederate soldiers down.

Vandalism.

And, oddly, no police officer saw nothin', even though this took place at the courthouse.
No arrests were made.
Can I pull down statues of MLK and Malcolm X because I disagree with what they stood for? (Hint, I dislike Malcolm X but respect the REAL MLK, not what the current legend of him is....and I wouldn't be that disrespectful any monument).

But if we are gonna have open season on monuments that some folks dislike.....



In related news:

Illinois hates Illinois nazis

And just because:










6 comments:

DTWND said...

I'm wondering how these statues came to be in the first place. Jeff Davis, R. E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, etc. were all enemies of the United States of America. They actively led armies and bore arms against the United States of America. Traitors, all of them. Why are these statues honoring these men and why were they erected?

Hmmm. Wait, all these statues are in the southern tier of states, states that fought for "states rights" to keep slavery and to have the new territories decide whether or not to allow slavery. Racist states. States that would deprive others not of their ilk, rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. States that stayed segregated until the 1960's. Some argue still segregated to this very day.

I have no problem taking down all of the statues of these traitors. Take down the Confederate flag as well. To me, it is a rallying point for racists (and Nazis) and not a symbol of their heritage. If they consider it as such then you know their heritage is bathed in racism.

Dale

B said...

Do destroying a monument to soldiers who fought for their country is racist? THose soldiers who died died defending their country honorably.

Just because you disagree with their philosophy does not make their sacrifice any less.

And, if you could be bothered to learn some history, the war was an economic one, not about slavery.

DTWND said...

Sorry B, you're wrong. Those monuments are not to soldiers who "fought for their country. Their country was the United States of America. They took up arms against the USA to secede from it and form a confederacy of states. Making war against the USA as a citizen of the USA is a traitorous act. It makes one a traitor. So, in essence, the south has erected monuments to traitors. These same traitors fought for the state's rights to keep people in slavery and preserve their "way of life." And they lost the "War of Northern Aggression" as they call it.

Dale

DTWND said...

As to your other point B, I offer this:

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/civil-war-facts

From that website:

While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War, Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. When Abraham Lincoln won election in 1860 as the first Republican president on a platform pledging to keep slavery out of the territories, seven slave states in the deep South seceded and formed a new nation, the Confederate States of America. The incoming Lincoln administration and most of the Northern people refused to recognize the legitimacy of secession. They feared that it would discredit democracy and create a fatal precedent that would eventually fragment the no-longer United States into several small, squabbling countries."


The economic war you speak of (which is an example of revisionist history) was to keep slaves to work in the fields so that the "owners" could accumulate wealth while doing little work. Thus their "economy" was slave based labor and their desire to go to war to maintain that lifestyle.

Dale.

B said...

See, DTWND, that is the issue, you choose some website that mirrors what you want to be reality and ignore true history....Because you want things to be like what you believe.

Reality doesn't seem to matter to you.

DTWND said...

Where are your sources that recount your "true" history? Your post from today, quoting from the book 1984, would make any source counter to your world viewpoint corrupt and illegitimate in your eyes. You are being close minded, B, and since I don't know you personally aside from the emails we've exchanged, I would venture to guess that you cannot bring yourself to admit to even yourself that you regret having Trump as your president.

Dale