One thought on the debate that no one else seems to be talking about:

 Joe talked a LOT about Values...but did not mention what those values were.

I think, for him, those values are not mine.

No rule of law

No Constitution. First amendment only to those who are currently special, the rest of us can just shut up. No Second amendment for anyone.

No true Equality, nor Equal Protection under the law....Minorities and groups deemed special at the moment are forgiven actions that the rest of us will be put in jail for.

Taxes taxes taxes...because the Government knows how to spend your money better than you do.....and redistribution is ok. So is Socialism. 

These are NOT my values. nor, I think, are they the values of most Americans, no matter what our color, culture or race.