tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3110246970957910039.post6283590341277123797..comments2023-12-17T00:33:12.503-06:00Comments on In the MIDDLE of the RIGHT: Question:B http://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3110246970957910039.post-82886545675059485332014-09-14T18:57:18.106-05:002014-09-14T18:57:18.106-05:00Murphy:
You make an excellent point about how ma...Murphy: <br /><br />You make an excellent point about how many are (or may be) sent on their way. <br /><br />We don't know. <br /><br />But why should I have to account for my cash? You say that the ends justify the means, but that is a slippery slope. <br /><br />Further, if the cops take $1k from me and it is gonna take many hours of my time and $800 in attorney's fees to get it back, where is the payoff? I would bet that this is the source of some of, if not the majority of, the 5/6 that don't bother to try to get their money back,<br /><br />Innocent until proven guilty....isn't that a fundamental part of our society's values? Why should I have to prove that my money is gotten from some approved source? Why shouldn't the burden be on the cops to prove that it is from illegal activities? <br /><br />B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3110246970957910039.post-28040541263342838252014-09-10T09:22:39.590-05:002014-09-10T09:22:39.590-05:00I'm having a hard time coming up with a scenar...I'm having a hard time coming up with a scenario where someone who earned or acquired a large amount of cash legally can't show how he or she came by it. Fact is, this sort of activity hits drug traffickers almost exclusively and I'm not having a problem with it. The story here is all about making it look like thousands of law-abiding people are being affected but it ignores it's own statistic where 5/6 of the cash seizures aren't even challenged by the owners/couriers of the money and of the remaining 1/6, 60% lose in court anyway because they cannot overcome the government's relatively low rebuttable presumtion bar. <br /><br />Sure, there may be a few folks dumb enough to cart around a bunch of lawfully-owned money in cash, but it's so rare and stupid as to represent a very, very small minority of those found to be transporting currency. The usual reason is drug proceeds and that's why most of them don't even challenge the seizures. A good cop can usually distinguish between a dumb citizen vs. a criminal actor and I'd imagine that most of those who are just dumb get sent on their way with their cash. Funny how the article doesn't mention any of those folks.<br /><br />All smoke, no fire here.Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3110246970957910039.post-6208542208438225062014-09-08T19:49:32.670-05:002014-09-08T19:49:32.670-05:00I know it isn't new....It is accelerating....b...I know it isn't new....It is accelerating....becoming accepted practice, rather than an outlier behavior wise. <br /><br /><br /><br />B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3110246970957910039.post-27096713006725097792014-09-08T13:21:33.847-05:002014-09-08T13:21:33.847-05:00Nothing new here. This has been happening for deca...Nothing new here. This has been happening for decades. We are in a police state, and are fast approaching third world tin pot status.<br /><br />Here are a couple more:<br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2014/03/12/cops-use-traffic-stops-to-seize-millions-from-drivers-never-charged-with-a-crime/<br /><br />Here is a story from 1996:<br /><br />http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/seizure-fever-the-war-on-property-rights/<br />Divemedichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14583007051962299381noreply@blogger.com